Friday, March 16, 2012

'Eventually, people will discover that they cannot save in terms of dollars'

Eventually, people will discover that they cannot save in terms of dollars (those who don’t figure it out will be rendered economically irrelevant as their wealth is removed from their hands). Savings is a necessary prerequisite for investment. Investment is necessary for companies to grow, to develop new technologies, products, and markets. Growth is necessary to hire new workers. As existing companies achieve higher productivity of labor, and do not need as many workers to perform the same work, they lay off unneeded people. In a free market, the unemployed would quickly be hired by growing companies that expand and develop new businesses. But today’s structurally high unemployment can be traced back to Friedman’s quack prescription (among other government interference). Weakening the currency not only discourages savings, it also weakens businesses who have to keep the currency on their balance sheet and who have to import some of their inputs. When a currency loses value, then all who hold it incur a loss. It is not possible to employ workers and run a business in a country without holding significant amounts of its currency. Currency debasement therefore imposes constant losses on enterprises that try to operate in such an environment.
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/guest-post-caution-falling-currencies

Or, you could listen to a guy posing as a liberal on the EA forum ( posing as a liberal is the most popular pastime on the EA forum):

Wood Goblin, November 2011: "Inflation hasn't been high enough."

Now, unless Wood Goblin has data proving that wages for the working class climb faster in an inflationary environment than their cost of living ( and I'm sure that he doesn't have that data, because wages never outpace the costs of goods during times of inflation ), then what Wood Goblin is really saying when he pleads for higher inflation is this:

 'Rob the working class of their savings and make them work harder to keep up with bills."

Where could someone say that and continue to pass himself off as a liberal?

Well, the Electrical Audio forum is one such place.

EA Forum's Warmowski Admits That Rick Reuben Has Been Right Along: The Liberal Movement Is Infested With Rich Assholes And Sellout Liberals Cover For Them, Because If They Don't, The Funding Source For Their Collectivist Utopia Dries Up


Re: The Problem with Liberalism

Postby warmowski on Fri Mar 16, 2012 2:46 am
the majority of the rich now identify as liberal
And what can we learn from that?

If modern liberalism is dangerous to the rich, why are the rich comfortable inside it?

If the rich are identifying as liberal, why aren't liberals identifying these intruders into their movement?

Do they like attaching themselves to a movement that welcomes the rich?

Maybe just maybe most liberals are exactly who Rick Reuben told you they are: pro-establishment, pro-status quo, pro-finance, pro-globalism, pro-zionism anti-labor open border sellout assholes?

Why is there no anti-globalism anti-finance anti-FED anti-zionism party to be found in our phony two party system?

There's no disagreement AT ALL on these issues from either the GOP or DEM candidates.

It's like they've been... filtered or something.

Why is that?

You don't have to ask me.

Warmowski just told you where to look.

But don't look too hard at 'the rich identifying as liberals'.

You might notice things you're not supposed to notice about a whole lot of them.


So don't look.

And whatever you do

don't identify them.

The rich can identify as liberals.

The liberals can't identify the rich.

Simple rule. Follow it.

Thursday, March 15, 2012

EA Forum's Warmowski Figures Out In 2012 What Everyone Who Wasn't On The Bandwagon Knew In 2008

A sentence like the one below never appeared in any Warmowski post before November of 2008. Or any of Connor's posts. Sentences very similar appeared in MANY Rick Reuben posts throughout 2007 and 2008.


Re: The Problem with Liberalism

Postby warmowski on Thu Mar 15, 2012 1:09 am
( Obama ) raised the largest contributions from the concentrated wealth of Wall Street in 20 years of presidential campaign history
I wonder if 2012 Warmowski has also figured out that Obama was cultivated by CFR/CIA/Zionist handlers going all the way back to his college days, and that it's really really hard to dig into where he got his money without noticing that?

Wall Street is CFR/Zio/CIA.

EA Forum's Warmowski: " Follow to their sources the rivers of democracy-diluting campaign finance and lobbying/revolving door money and you find a class of wealthy people. This is not news."


Re: The Problem with Liberalism

Postby warmowski on Wed Mar 14, 2012 5:23 pm

Follow to their sources the rivers of democracy-diluting campaign finance and lobbying/revolving door money and you find a class of wealthy people. This is not news.
A class of wealthy people?

You mean the class of wealthy people we can't fully identify without being called racists, even though it's quite obvious that a huge segment of this class operates a system of 'you look out for me, I'll look out for you' business practices centered around promoting the collective power of their own culture/ethnicity/religion ( call it what you like ) to the exclusion of outsiders?

How can we defeat this overclass if we aren't allowed to talk about who they are and what they did to get their money and what they use their power to do?

This blind spot/embargo on the truth is the eternal failure and shame of sellout liberalism. It's been going on for so long that there's only one explanation left for it that makes any sense: sellout liberals want the scum protected because they want the scum to win because they believe the scum will give them state power and collectivism. And so far, this partnership between racist greedy predator parasites and their sellout liberal phalanx of pack mule water carrier propagandizing assholes seems to be rolling us right towards that cliff.

Wednesday, March 14, 2012

Guy Who Has Spent Three Years Pounding Away At One Message- "Anyone who isn't liberal is a stupid greedy racist"- Declares 'I don't even know what it means to be liberal or conservative.'

Re: The Problem with Liberalism

Postby caix on Tue Mar 13, 2012 9:50 am

I don't even think these labels mean anything. Conservatives aren't technically conservative, liberals aren't technically liberal. I don't want to say I'm on either side, for the most part I don't even know what it means to be either thing.
Hilarious.

For someone who claims to 'not understand the criteria', Caix sure has been using the same simplified flash cards forever on the EA forum:

'Hey, Caix- want to discuss the right?'

'Sure they're racist, greedy and stupid."

'Anything else?'

'they're racist, greedy and stupid."

'Anything else?'



'they're racist, greedy and stupid."

'Anything else?'



'Sure they're racist, greedy and stupid."

'Anything else?'



'they're racist, greedy and stupid."

'Anything else?'



'Sure they're racist, greedy and stupid."

'Anything else?'



' they're racist, greedy and stupid."

'Anything else?'



'Sure they're racist, greedy and stupid."


 

EA Forum's Caix: "Let's talk about why both American conservatism and liberalism have failed and what we should actually be fighting for. "


Re: The Problem with Liberalism

Postby caix on Mon Mar 12, 2012 7:40 pm
Let's talk about why both American conservatism and liberalism have failed and what we should actually be fighting for.
Hilarious.

Caix is proposing an alternative to the failed phony two party system??

What a pile of empty rhetoric.

Let me guess what this alternative will look like...

It will look exactly like the failed globalist pro-finance pro-open borders pro-debt money pro-FED pro-zionist pro-9/11 myth bullshit express that working class-hating racist traitor liberals have already collaborated with for a century.

Same sacred cows, same PC horseshit.

EA Forum's Caix: "The right wing, to their credit, have been able to mobilize their believers with bullshit, lies and anger"


Re: The Problem with Liberalism

Postby caix on Mon Mar 12, 2012 12:40 pm

The right wing, to their credit, have been able to mobilize their believers with bullshit, lies and anger
Hilarious.

And the phony left, the inverse of the phony right in the phony two party false choice corporate/fascist system, doesn't?

Example:

Asshole sellout liberal lying bullshit artist: "Ron Paul will end abortion, end civil rights, and shut down public education."

"You must be an idiot. Abortion is decided by the courts, civil rights are decided by the courts, and the federal government doesn't fund public education, towns and states do. The president doesn't control any of what you're yapping about. None of your fearmongering is based in reality. "

EA Forum's Caix Makes A God-awful Mess Out Of What Could Have Been A Good Thread


The Problem with Liberalism

Postby Cranius on Mon Mar 12, 2012 2:16 am
Caix: "Sorry, we can't have a thread discussing problems with liberalism. We need to focus exclusively on the problems with conservatism."

Everyone Else: "The forum already has a thousand of those threads."

Caix: "Yes, I know, but if we critique liberalism, I can't contribute. I only know how to write endless redundant variations of the same two things: 'the right wing sucks' and 'the tea party sucks'."
Caix actually does demonstrate quite effectively one of the major problems with liberalism: too many zombie liberals think that any criticism of liberalism=praise of the right. Their groupthink on this is really quite impressive. Example:

'Liberals have problem x,y, or z.'

Zombie Liberal/Caix: 'Let me tell you why the right is really bad.'

'We're not discussing the right at the moment and criticizing the left doesn't mean you're praising the right.'

Zombie Liberal/Caix: 'Let me tell you why the right is really bad.'

Repeat over and over.

EA Forum's Big John: "Steve is a notorious troll in his own forum."


Re: EA Forum Member Steve Called Out Over Tape Op Interview

Postby Big John on Wed Mar 14, 2012 12:41 pm
I don’t think Steve actually believes this shit. He seems to have rational and nuanced opinions. I think he does it to get a rise out of folks.

Steve sometimes likes to make absolutist comments about things, that on their face, (even to people who know little about the subject) is the opposite of the reality/truth/history. So by inverting commonly accepted things he stirs people up and gets a little controversy going. He does not follow up on these comments and leaves others to fill in the blanks. I think for lack of a better term I will refer to these “Arch” comments (Albinisms).

If all that is true, then Albini actually fits the definition of an internet troll.

Not many on the EA forum notice that though, because on the EA forum, their definition of 'troll' is totally different ( different as in 'wrong' ). Their definition of troll is: 'someone who posts opinions we dislike backed by evidence we can't refute'. That's how the EA forum conveniently deposits people who tell them the truth about money, media, war, terrorism, zionism, 9/11, etc. into the troll category.

Tuesday, March 13, 2012

Cranius: "Problem with Liberalism"

First question to pop into my head when reading the article Cranius posted:

Does the author work around the public?

Did he ever criticize GWB jr on the job?

Did he think the rules about keeping political opinions quiet on the job were the same for him?

Probably not.

Sellout liberals have a hard time accepting that they are bound by rules they make for others.

Didn't have time to read the EA thread to see if these questions were asked.

The Problem with LiberalismPostby on Mon Mar 12, 2012 2:16 am Cranius

For me this typifies progressive liberalism:


So after I was all paid up and everything was in my cart I said to her,
"I suggest you keep your political opinions to yourself when you're standing there because you never know who's standing here. I don't appreciate hearing my president trashed like that. That's all I'm going to say."

Monday, March 12, 2012

Globalization, Open Borders & Unified Currency Save The Youth Of Europe

Electrical Audio Forum's Cranius: "Globalization, open borders and unified currency are really awesome."

Sunday, March 11, 2012

EA Forum's Cranius: "You know that thing where people were suggesting moving money out of the banks to credit unions as a form of protest -- guess what? It doesn't work"


Re: Occupy Wall St.

Postby Cranius on Sun Mar 11, 2012 1:15 pm
You know that thing where people were suggesting moving money out of the banks to credit unions as a form of protest -- guess what? It doesn't work
No shit. And Cranius can't tell you why. It doesn't work because, if you are using Federal Reserve Notes to conduct your commerce, you are using imitation money. The FRN is CREDIT, not money. You are party to a LOAN when you use it. It is the scrip of a private for-profit corporation. They don't care where you store your money, as long as you use their FRN in place of real money.

Do people not understand that once the phony money is forced on you as legal tender ( in quantities that they alone control ), the bankers already have complete and total victory? Everything that happens with the FRN after it is fed into the system does nothing to penalize them, if it is still your primary ( only ) medium of exchange/ unit of account.

If you save in FRN's, whether in a bank or a credit union, they win.

If your mortgage/loan is in FRN's, whether from a bank or a credit union, THEY WIN!

Electrical Audio Forum: "We're not sycophantic cult members- which we'll prove by reacting as though an attack on Steve Albini is an attack on all of us!"

How much of a cult?

Enough to almost let themselves get shaken down for $300K to 'bail out' a studio that was never behind on its mortgage ( and was in fact paid off less than a year later ).

Steve Albini Headed for a Bailout?

10/01/2010






Famed Electrical Audio studios getting a loving helping hand from Tim Midgett and other fans of the man and the establishment.

By Fred Mills

The economy sucks, don't it? The Bush-era tendrils of failed capitalism continue to reach out and entangle the good citizens of the USA. The latest troubled asset: producer/rocker Steve Albini's Electrical Audio studios in Chicago, which is reportedly $230,000 in debt, mortgage-wise. But since Congress isn't very likely to step in anytime soon on this one, no less a knight in white than Tim Midgett (Silkworm/Bottomless Pit) has decided to do something about it.

According to a story posted yesterday at the AV Club, the studio probably will not close but he hopes his "Pay Off Electrical Audio" campaign, in which fans are solicited to donate, Kickstarter/IndieGoGo style, and raise funds sufficient to ensure that the studio is never in danger of closing. In the article, Midgett speculates that Albini's "tendency to charge under-market rates to bands looking to record there" may have played a part in the current financial crunch, but that "I think the place should be paid off by now, and I think we have the ability to do it."

As of this writing about $35k, or 15% of the total $230,000, has been pledged, and folks will not have their credit cards billed unless the full amount is reached. You can pledge at the "Pay off Electrical Audio" page.

Incidentally, at that page, Greg Norman of Electrical Audio posted a message indicating that the studio was not directly involved in the campaign (nor is the studio in any immediate financial peril, he hastens to add), but that they are very grateful for Midgett's gesture.
How did the wires on this story get so crossed?

How was it made to appear that Electrical was BEHIND $230K on its mortgage, when it was actually paid up but had $230K REMAINING, which are two totally different situations?

Well, we'll never know because the whole thing was swept under the rug and the people who launched the 'bailout that isn't really a bailout it's more like a gift no wait it's more like payment for the great records Steve made no wait it's payment for the EA forum no wait we're just asking you for money because we think you might give us some' campaign never had to cough up a clear explanation for what went down.

How much of a cult?

Enough to be conned into believing that the EA forum is a gift from Albini to them, when actually the forum is the best and most cost-efficient way to generate repeat/new visitors to the studio website ( who's going to return daily if it's just photos of microphones that never change?  ).

How much of a cult?

Enough to react to every arrow fired at Albini as though it was fired into their own midsections ( Odd Future, that band that said Albini played Scrabble while running their session, the VICE dude, etc. etc. ).

Saturday, March 10, 2012

Famous Death Penalty Opponents On The EA Forum Totally Ignoring The NDAA, Will Undoubtedly Be Voting En Masse For Candidate Who Claims Right To Execute US Citizens On US Soil Without Trial

I hope Albini and Warmowski pause their babbling hypocrisy on the death penalty long enough come November to cast enthusiastic votes for the guy who signed the NDAA 'terminate on sight' law:

FBI Director Robert Mueller on Wednesday said he would have to go back and check with the Department of Justice whether Attorney General Eric Holder’s “[criteria] for the targeted killing of Americans" also applied to Americans inside the U.S.


“I have to go back. Uh, I’m not certain whether that was addressed or not,” Mueller said when asked by Rep. Tom Graves, R-Ga., about a distinction between domestic and foreign targeting.

Obama 2008/2012 Rahm Emanuel 2011 Voter Steve Albini wrote:

Postby steve on Mon Jun 20, 2005 9:36 pm

Our government should not kill its citizens. Not ever.
steve albini
Electrical Audio
sa at electricalaudio dot com
Quicumque quattuor feles possidet insanus est.

Obama 2008/2012 Voter Warmowski wrote:


Re: Verdict - Death Penalty/Capital Punishment

Postby warmowski on Tue Sep 01, 2009 10:30 am

The State Should Not Be Killing Its Prisoners. End of story. To posit otherwise is to endorse bloodthirst. It really can't get simpler than that.

There is no middle ground, sorry: oppose bloodthirst or endorse it.

How about designating US citizens as terrorists and killing them without trial wherever they stand?

Does voting for the President who gave himself permission to do that count as an endorsement?

Luckily, Warmowski and Albini hide out in a forum where they don't face questions on these matters.

Globalist Sellout Liberals: "We want to stop wars, trust us- we just have to be really really really careful what we say about the people who start all the wars."

Sellout liberal: "I want to stop the wars."

"Would you say this? >>>"
And I beg you, President Obama, stand up for justice and the American people, and don’t send these children to war for the sake of Israel.- Louis Farrakhan
Sellout liberal: "No, I wouldn't."

EA Forum's Tommydski: "Murder Capital (sic)"

Chicago and Harding is not the murder 'capital' of Chicago. Englewood or Austin probably still holds that distinction.

Murder Capital should read Murder Capitol. When you're talking about a place, you use 'capitol'.

Tommydski: "I first encountered The Nurse Novels in a disused church on the outskirts of downtown Chicago, IL, playing their luminescent pop rock on a makeshift stage set up adjacent to an active drug corner, in a neighbourhood largely regarded as being the murder capital of the Second City."

http://pocketjury.net/2012/03/the-nurse-novels-frozen-muzak/ 

Canadian Marxist Won't Identify The Leash That Drags All US Presidents To Prostrate Themselves Before AIPAC Because, As A Marxist, He Supports Central Banking And Debt Money

Andrew L., complaining again about the US leaders groveling before AIPAC, but still leaving out all the information one would need to understand why, like:

Zionists/rich Jews control the media
Zionists/rich Jews control finance


Re: New Study: Israel exhibits "the three Pillars of Aparthe

Postby Andrew. on Fri Mar 09, 2012 7:11 pm
 the same weekend Obama made the annual presidential pilgrimage to prostrate himself before AIPAC. A bizarre American ritual.

The History Of Krakabash On The EA Forum Illustrates EA Forum's Embarrassing Moderation Policy

For three years ( maybe more ), forum user krakabash posted pro-Israel pro-Zionism propaganda on the EA forum ( which means he was racist against goyim gentiles ).

During that time, he was never banned.

Then krakabash remade himself into a standard 'God exists' poster.

And that got him quickly banned.

Krakabash the zionist: not banned.

Krakabash who expressed a belief in God: called a troll immediately and swiftly banned.

Thus proving that on the EA forum, you can attack gentiles, but you can't use a thread on atheism to post that you believe in God. First is tolerated, second is not.

Deplorable.

Here's a great Rick Reuben post from 2009:


Re: New Study: Israel exhibits "the three Pillars of Apartheid"

Postby Rick Reuben on Thu Jun 18, 2009 1:21 pm
Let Krakabash post away. It's good to have a look into the mind of a fanatical Zionist. I don't see where anything he's doing violates the rules of the forum, or see where anything he's saying wouldn't be said by Gramsci if Gramsci had the guts to be honest.

Maybe some of the sellout liberals here don't want to be reminded that the voices of those like Krakabash are going to be heard echoing louder and louder and louder from every corner of this country in the coming years, as long as the sellout liberal traitors continue to keep their mouths shut about the takeover of the US by race supremacist Khazar banker lunatics. There isn't a thing you can do about it because every road to reform you dopey sellout liberals think you still have is gone. Even if any of you were serious opponents of Zionism, you all know that you're using dull swords against them. Corporate Democrats? Fail. Corporate Republicans? Fail. Controlled Media? Fail. The bankers own them all,and the bankers own Zionism, so the bankers own you.

The road to the complete conquest of America by Zionist master race tyrants is paved with sellout liberal silence over the Federal Reserve and the controlled media. It has been for a hundred years and now the end zone is in sight. Krakabash is your guest. I hope you like his type as your future master. Enjoy your freedom to criticize Israel now, you phonies. It's not long for your world. There are already laws in the pipeline that will make you a criminal for criticizing Israel or for stating that there is a criminal alliance between banking and Zionism. So put out the welcome mat for your guest, Krakabash the fanatical Zionist. You should treat the guy who thinks the Gentiles are second class cattle much better. Stop calling him a troll. You sound dopey. He's the voice of the guy holding all your leashes. People who think like him are a big part your current American elite power structure and the only part of your future America elite power structure.

Let the voice of Krakabash get louder and louder. Let it work like water torture on the brains of the mushy politically correct liberals with the massive self-enforced blind spots. Let his voice burn your shame over your treason,like holy water on Dracula. ACCEPT YOUR MASTERS WITHOUT COMPLAINT.

If it pains the sellout liberals to be reminded that people with the philosophy of a Krakabash are on their 'protected species' lists because the sellout liberals are terrified to confront the illegal, Khazar-dominated financial system, then so be it.

You know why someone like Krakabash can comfortably spit in your idiot liberal American faces and tell you that there isn't a goddamn thing you can do about Israel? Because he's right. Your country is their property. Ha ha. Now mind your manners and treat your guest better. You invited him.

Sellout liberal: "I pretend to oppose US military interventions and I pretend to oppose Zionism."

Rick Reuben: "How do you pretend to oppose wars and Zionism, pretend liberal?"

Sellout Liberal: "Well, for starters, I call for the US to shrink its military budget."

Rick Reuben: "Because?"

Sellout Liberal: "Because I recognize that an army grows only as large as its funding source allows."

Rick Reuben: "So I can assume that you focus on the funding source of Zionism when you make your pretend efforts to restrain Zionism?"

Sellout Liberal: "No, I pretend that Israel and Zionism didn't suspiciously come into dominance in the Middle East at the exact same time that the monetary system and media of the world's most influential and richest nation were gobbled up by a cabal of Zionist family dynasties."

Rick Reuben: "Would you deny that the US military started intervening and occupying territories all over the globe at the exact same time that the military's share of the GDP started to climb steeply?"

Sellout Liberal: "No, I'm allowed to criticize the military budget without anyone calling me an anti-semite, so I do."

Rick Reuben: "But if you criticize the transfer of compound interest collected by privately-owned central banks into the hands of those building the Zionist empire, you are an anti-semite?"

Sellout Liberal: "Definitely."

Rick Reuben: "How do you expect to stop the Zionists if you keep letting them gas up at your pump?"

Sellout Liberal: "I don't. I expect to continue using the same futile methods that have failed to slow Zionism for the past 100 years."

Rick Reuben: "While you sink deeper into debt to the Zionists?"

Sellout Liberal: "It's not so bad. The deeper I sink, the less I can see of the world around me, which is littered with the corpses and graves of those sacrificed in staged wars arranged to fund the expansion of International Zionism."

THE END

Spoken, listened. Again.

Friday, March 9, 2012

Your Holographic Centrally-Planned 'Hide The Damage And Postpone The Inevitable' Economy At Work

GAO: Almost Half of Bailed Banks Repaid the Government With Money “From Other Federal Programs”

EVENT

Interesting news to drop on a Friday afternoon. Presumably, the rest of the sovereign debt market is firewalled against the repercussions of this 'event', or it would never have been allowed to transpire in the first place. The whole thing being one big hologram of phony money and phony value and phony prices leveraged to infinity and easting its own tail, after all.


Breaking: ISDA Credit Event Has Occurred In Greece, CDS Triggered

Guy Who Spent Five Years On EA Forum Using The Internet To Argue About Religion: "religion is a private matter"

Re: The Atheism Poll

Postby matthew on Fri Mar 09, 2012 1:54 pm
religion is a private matter and ought to remain such
I wonder if Matthew 2012 believes that opposition to religion is also a 'private matter', or if it is only the religious who are obligated to keep their opinions private?

( We'll ignore the fact that atheism is itself a faith-based religion of a different color. )

Leon Panetta Confirms For The 10,000,000th Time Since 1933: The US Is The Incorporated Property Of An International Banking Cartel And Your Elected Officials Either Do As They Are Told Or They Are Ignored Or Eliminated

This should speak for itself:

Sen. Jeff Sessions pressed Defense Secretary Leon Panetta on the issue during the Senate Armed Services Committee hearing today:

SESSIONS: “Do you think you can act without Congress and initiate a no-fly zone in Syria without congressional approval?”

PANETTA: “Our goal would be to seek international permissionWhether or not we would want to get permission from the Congress—I think those are issues we would have to discuss as we decide what to do here.”

SESSIONS: “Well I am almost breathless about that because what I heard you say is, ‘we’re going to seek international approval and we’ll come and tell the Congress what we might do, and we might seek congressional approval’… Wouldn’t you agree that would be pretty breathtaking to the average American?”

America: We're So Overrun By Globalist Traitors, Even Our Food Is Increasingly Grown ( concocted out of unknown chemicals ) Outside Our Borders

Looks like Connor Kilpatrick's plan to close the trade deficit by killing the dollar still isn't working... we're spending more debased dollars to buy more stuff we should be building/growing ourselves.

The U.S. trade deficit surged to the widest imbalance in more than three years in January as imports hit an all-time high, reflecting big demand for foreign-made cars, computers and food products.
Globalist sellout liberals: "We have to cut CO2! It's a deadly gas!"

"How much CO2 do you think is generated by the boats/planes/trains/trucks used to deliver groceries all the way from foreign countries to American store shelves?"

"Don't confuse us! Don't confuse us! Your questions are too hard!"

Imports of food products also hit a record high of $9.6 billion with demand for foreign-produced fish, meat, bakery products and wine and beer all rising.

95% of the grapes I see in supermarkets in Chicago are sourced from some place like Chile. I wonder how much of that very deadly CO2 is exhausted into the atmosphere trucking something that is 95% water weight like seedless grapes from Chile to Chicago?

 

EA Forum's Tommydski Confirms He Is Still A Daily Reader Of Rick Reuben's Blog

Good work, Tommy.

My blog earlier today:

http://censoredrickreuben.blogspot.com/2012/03/ea-forums-tommydski-refers-to-bands.html


'principle' replaced with 'principal' later today:

http://pocketjury.net/2012/03/the-nurse-novels-frozen-muzak/

Ant Farm

Hilarious. 'Do some God-type stuff'... as if the possibility that us and all our ancestors have been up to our necks in 'God-type' stuff our entire lives is totally implausible.


Re: The Atheism Poll

Postby steve on Thu Mar 08, 2012 12:54 pm
galanter wrote:
What experiment can we do to disprove the proposition "God doesn't exist?"

Test a purported god by asking him to do god-type stuff. If he does god-type stuff, then I guess we have a god.
a play-
Two Ants in an Ant Farm

Ant One: "Hey, we're in an ant farm."

Ant Two: "Where did it come from?"

Ant One: "Don't know. Did you make it?"

Ant Two: "Nope."

Ant One: "Me neither.  Maybe it was created? After all, we can't explain where it came from or how we came to be in it."

Ant Two: "Created??  You can't be serious. Why would anyone think that an environment could be built?"

Ant One: "Because this environment we're in looks like it was built??"

Ant Two: "Sorry. Convenient collisions between unguided matter from unknown origins is the most likely explanation."

Ant One: "It IS??"

Ant Two: "It is if you're an atheist."

Zionist Controllers Offer Obama Robotic Mormon Fall Guy In November If He Will Continue To Borrow, Bomb, Torture And Tax As Ordered

Romney weak, but it’ll take all our strength to beat him, say Obama aides

President Barack Obama's top reelection strategists derisively painted Republican presidential frontrunner Mitt Romney on Wednesday as a weak candidate who alienates key voting blocs and seems unable to unite his party. But they then warned any complacent Democrats that it would take a massive, well-funded and organized campaign to beat him in "a tough race" to November.
Hilarious:

'it would take a massive, well-funded and organized campaign to beat him'

In other words, the Democratic party is still for sale, and will still spend 100's of billions in corporate money on this campaign, collected in return for IOU's that will be cashed by the corporate sponsors during the second term.

Man, Obama's negatives must be polling off the charts if the only way they can rig a tight race is to match him against Romney. 

EA Forum's Tommydski Refers To A Band's Principal Songwriter as 'principle songwriter'

Tommydski: "principle songwriter "

http://pocketjury.net/2012/03/the-nurse-novels-frozen-muzak/

EA Forum's PJ Craven Can't Figure Out How To Write Anything That Anyone Will Want To Read About Albini VICE Article, Calls For Thread To Be Locked/Wiped

I love when sellout liberals seek the comfort of the herd...

'Come on everyone, let's all be good clones and ignore this article!'

Hilarious.

It's really important to cookie cutter liberals that everyone be all together on everything. 'I hope that's how we roll'??

Who gives a fuck?

Roll if you want to roll and don't roll if you don't want to roll.

Posting to declare zero interest?

Too funny.

If you had zero interest, you wouldn't post. AT ALL.

We'll watch the view counter on this thread climb, all while Albini's sycophants insist they have 'zero interest' and are 'ignoring the article'.

PJ Craven will 'pay this silliness no mind' by compulsively checking the progress of this thread six times daily for as long as it stays on page one of GD.



Re: EA Forum Member Steve Called Out Over Tape Op InterviewPostby on Thu Mar 08, 2012 11:33 pm P.J. Craven

I have zero interest in paying this silliness any mind. Are we all just ignoring it? I hope that's how things roll.

Electrical Audio Forum Sycophants Crowd Vice Magazine's Comments Section To Defend Remarks That None Of Them Agree Need Defending

Interesting that a flood of Albini's sycophants swarmed on that VICE article right after it went on line back in February to complain, but until March 8, no one from the EA forum dared link the article over at the EA Forum.

Why?

Because, as sycophants, they instinctively knew that Albini would not want the history dredged up by the VICE author on his cult's home forum.

Hilariously, Tommydski wrote a ten paragraph comment explaining why none of Albini's comments needed defending.

Nobody writes 2000 words to defend something that doesn't need defending.

The proof that the EA forum sycophants saw the need for damage control is their reluctance to spotlight the article on their own forum.

Two weeks passed, then numberthirty spotlighted it, and then damage control resumed on the EAF.

If the exact same comments from Albini were found in the writings of someone the PRF is programmed to hate ( because they're controlled by racist controlled media )- like Ron Paul, for example- all the same remarks from Albini would be described as horribly racist, if they were spoken/written by Ron Paul.

Enjoy the asskissing:

http://www.vice.com/read/but-can-you-do-a-kickflip-steve-albini

My favorite line from the Tommydski comment?

The one that asserts that 'liberalism' is opposed to racism:

Tommydski on Albini: "He’s also almost certainly the most liberal individual whom I have had the pleasure of meeting and certainly not a racist"

Yeah, liberals aren't racist at all.

Except for when they're lying about and defending the most aggressive, virulent, murderous racist organization on Earth, the international zionism/international finance hybrid of debt-enslaving property-thieving war-starting terrorists from hell, entirely guided by a race supremacist world domination philosophy laid out in 5,000 years of history that racist sellout liberals can't seem to notice when they're doing their totally phony campaigning against racism.

For their racist programmers.

Thursday, March 8, 2012

Jibbering Conspiraphobic Sellout Liberal Traitors Surrounded By Technology That Allows Planes To Be Operated By Joystick Jockeys On The Ground

And then they insist that remote controlled aircraft on 9/11 was an impossibility, even though successful takeovers of four cockpits and successful piloting by hijackers is preposterous.

Hijacking of the controls? Yes.

By humans actually on the planes? No.

The Federal Aviation Administration has taken the first concrete step toward allowing drones to fly alongside passenger airplanes in the United States.

As required by a law signed by President Obama in February, the FAA is moving forward with a plan to integrate unmanned aircraft into the national airspace by 2015.

Denying That The Deal Was Made At The Meeting Doesn't Deny The Deal

President Barack Obama and Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu did not discuss in their meetings this week an Israeli request for advanced U.S. military technology that could be used against Iran, the White House said on Thursday.

"In meetings the president had there was no such agreement proposed or reached," White House press secretary Jay Carney told reporters. Obama and Netanyahu meet in the Oval office for two hours on Monday and then had lunch together.

An Israeli official said earlier on Thursday that Israel has asked the United States for advanced "bunker-buster" bombs and refueling planes that could improve its ability to attack Iran's underground nuclear sites.

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They didn't deny the deal, they merely denied the deal was brokered at the recent White House meeting.
In other news, that hilarious headline keeps appearing, over and over:

'Israel Demands Iran Halt Nuclear Program'

The more accurate versions of that headline you can't see in US/ZOG media?

'Country That Spied, Bribed, Extorted, And Stole Itself Into The Nuclear Arms Club Demands Iran Halt Nuclear Program'

or

'Country That Actually Used Two Nuclear Weapons On Civilian Populations Demands Iran Halt Nuclear Program'

Neither the US or Israel has the moral authority to demand that Iran cover its mouth when it sneezes. 


Wednesday, March 7, 2012

EA Forum's big_dave: "Science is a complete failure at its only task."

big_dave. Still babbling, still using his favorite rhetorical device: state that 'everyone' agrees with some looniness that pops out of Dave's head:


Re: The Atheism Poll

Postby big_dave on Wed Mar 07, 2012 3:26 pm
  I don't think anyone really believes that science "reveals" the world anymore.
Yeah, I remember very well when atoms and protons and neutrons revealed themselves...

( science having nothing to do with it, of course )

LOL

'Let's pretend that student loans are about education'

There are three dirty little secrets buried under the education/student-loan complex's high-gloss sheen:

 1. Student loans have little to do with education and everything to do with creating a new profit center for subprime-type lenders guaranteed by the Savior State.

 2. A college diploma's value in the real world of getting a job and earning a good salary in a post-financialization economy has been grossly oversold.

 3. Many people are taking out student loans just to live; the loans are essentially a form of "State funding" a.k.a. welfare that must be paid back.
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/guest-post-our-lets-pretend-economy-lets-pretend-student-loans-are-about-education

I guarantee that Wood Goblin thinks student loans are about education. Why wouldn't he? He thinks that making people buy insurance ( another form of loan ) is 'giving them health care'.

Corporate health insurance isn't health care. It's a way for lenders to rent you money at a profit.

Student loans aren't education. They're a way for lenders to rent you money at a profit. And business is good:




Something for the globalize/outsource/open borders sellout liberal assholes to chew on:


Electrical Audio Forum: "Let's have a poll and talk about God!"... 'Are we allowed to talk about God?'... 'NO!'

Hilarious.

EAF: 'Let's talk about God!'

'Can we talk about God?'

'Not according to this guy:'
Re: The Atheism Poll
Postby madmanmunt on Wed Mar 07, 2012 12:19 pm
 God is not a useful hypothesis.

Someone should have made this post on page one of the thread, not page sixty.

This EA forum thread has achieved all its objectives:

1- Misrepresent what atheism is.

2- Misrepresent what agnosticism is.

3- Misrepresent what belief is.

4- Insist that speculating about creation is a crime.

'God is not a useful hypothesis'??

When I read that, I was 99% sure that only an idiot would say something so ridiculous. Then I saw that Antero agreed, and that made me 100% sure that only an idiot would say something so ridiculous.

Why even have a thread that polls on religious beliefs if no one is permitted the option of having those beliefs?

Nearly Finished With Their Job Of Slaughtering American Manufacturing Workers, Globalist Sellout Liberal Finance Sector-Loving Traitors Prepare Phase Two: Mass Culling Of Retail Worker Herd

The top 100 mega-retailers operate 243,000 stores. Will our contracting civilization really need or be able to sustain 14,000 McDonalds, 17,000 Taco Bells & KFCs, 24,000 Subways, 9,000 Wendys, 7,000 7-11s, 8,000 Walgreens, 7,000 CVS’, 4,000 Sears & Kmarts, 11,000 Starbucks, 4,000 Wal-Marts, 1,700 Lowes and 1,800 Targets in five years?  As our economy contracts and more of our dwindling disposable income is directed towards rising energy and food costs, retailers across the land will shut their doors. Try to picture the impact on this country as these retailers are forced to close 50,000 stores. Where will recent college graduates and broke Baby Boomers work? The most profitable business of the future will be producing Space Available and For Lease signs. Betting on the intelligence of the American consumer has been a losing bet for decades. They will continue to swipe that credit card at the local 7-11 to buy those Funions, jalapeno cheese stuffed pretzels with a side of cheese dipping sauce, cartons of smokes, and 32 ounce Big Gulps of Mountain Dew until the message on the credit card machine comes back DENIED.  -Jim Quinn

The STAPLES and OFFICE DEPOT Story

Further along on the downward death spiral are Staples and Office Depot. They both increased their store counts by 50% to 60% in the last decade. Despite adding almost 200 stores since 2007, Staples has managed to reduce their profits. Sales per store have declined by 20% since 2006. Office Depot has succeeded in losing almost $2 billion in the last five years. These fools are actually opening new stores again despite overseeing a 36% decrease in sales per store over the last decade. These stores sell paper clips, paper, pens, and generic crap you can purchase at 100,000 other stores across the land or with a click of you mouse. Their business concept is dying and they don’t know it or refuse to acknowledge it.
 Staples - Annual Store Count Growth
Office Depot - Annual Store Count Growth

The BEST BUY Story

Ugly.

There is no better example of this than Best Buy. They increased their U.S. store count from 500 in 2002 to 1,300 today. That is a 160% increase in store count. For some perspective, national retail sales grew by 42% over this same time frame. Their strategy wiped out thousands of mom and pop stores and drove their chief competitor – Circuit City – into liquidation. But their hubris caught up to them. There sales per store has plummeted from $36 million per store in 2007 to less than $28 million per store today, a 24% decline in just five years. They have cannibalized themselves and have seen a $6 billion increase in revenue lead to $100 million LESS in profits. It appears the 444 stores they have built since 2007 have a net negative ROI. Top management is now in full scramble mode as they refuse to admit their strategic errors. Instead they cut staff and use upselling gimmicks like service plans, technical support and deferred financing to try and regain profitability. They will not admit they have far too many stores until it is too late. They will follow the advice of an earnings per share driven Wall Street crowd and waste their cash buying back stock. We’ve seen this story before and it ends in tears. I was in a Best Buy last week at 6:00 pm and there were at least 50 employees servicing about 10 customers. Tick Tock.  -Jim Quinn
 Best Buy - Annual Store Count Growth
Best Buy - Annual Sales per Store

False Recovery Sustained By False Money

The “fantastic” automaker recovery is being driven by 0% financing for seven years peddled to subprime (aka deadbeats) borrowers for mammoth SUVs and pickup trucks that get 15 mpg as gas prices surge past $4.00 a gallon. What could possibly go wrong in that scenario?- Jim Quinn
   
 

Tuesday, March 6, 2012

'Democracy, as practiced by the US and other developed countries, is a fraud.'

Democracy, as practiced by the US and other developed countries, is a fraud. It is just a way for the insiders to scam money and power from the outsiders, by pretending that the voters are in charge...... American democracy, circa 2012, has no more in common with real democracy than American capitalism has in common with real capitalism. Both are degenerate...corrupt...and geriatric.-Bill Bonner writing recently in the Daily Reckoning
That's great. Wish I wrote that. The best thing about it is this- no political parties are mentioned. Because they don't matter. They're not the insiders.

Most accurate way to identify globalist sellout liberals: Get them to tell these three lies. 99.9% of sellout liberals tell all of them.

1-Political parties matter.

   Wrong. Ideas matter.

2- The system is not run by insiders.

  Wrong. All policies are set exclusively by insiders who are unaccountable.

3- Democracy will work.

   No, it won't. Society can't be run by majority rule, because the country will be dragged down by the dumbest and the most drugged out and the laziest and the greediest and the wickedest.

A democracy is the most easily corrupted form of government, because the criminals only have to pay you off for a brief time to get you on their team, and then you wake up and realize you're their slave and you've lost your government. The introduction of debt-backed money always seduces the gullible in just this manner, because up front, it generates economic energy.  Then, when the monetary supply is saturated and the penalties of depreciation and interest outweigh the energy of new money, you wake up realizing your country has been collateralized and signed over to crazed demons, thanks to the majority rule democracy that fell for it and dragged you down with them.

 A Republic based on protection of the individual from the mob is far superior. Because this supposes that humans are built with the capacity to live without government, sellout liberals despise this form of republic. They believe that everyone's main goal from birth should be to either work for the state or become a ward of the state.

Monday, March 5, 2012

Wood Goblin, EA Forum, December 2011: 'Inflation hasn't been high enough!'


Re: America's Economic Free Fall

Postby Wood Goblin on Sat Dec 10, 2011 9:30 am
inflation hasn't been high enough.
The italics are his, not mine.

I would invite Wood Goblin to make visits to gas stations around the city on weekends to explain to people that inflation hasn't been high enough.

Crazy people are often found wandering through gas station lots in Chicago, babbling crazy talk. It's part of our local scenery.

I wonder... what would gas to have to rise to for Wood Goblin to say 'inflation is high enough'?

Will he say it at $5 a gallon?

$6?

It would be hilarious for Wood Goblin to be at a West Side station selling gas for $4.19 , telling people that 'inflation hasn't been high enough'... at $5 a gallon, his lunacy might get him shot.

Deep BTUZ Makes Sense Again, Gets Attacked

The problem with giving the best answer about God ( 'we don't know' ) is that it short circuits your vendetta against those who say 'I don't know but I'm willing to take an honest look as science progresses' . Asshole sellout liberal christian-hating bigots posing as atheists do not want that honest look taken. They DO NOT. They want it to be 'case closed', because 'case closed' can fuel their bigotry. They insist that your honest look is a dishonest crazy stupid look. Because they're gigantic peer pressure-driven dogmatic assholes. Assholes, and 54 page lying blowhards, too, as BTUZ points out.

Of course BTUZ got attacked immediately.

He made sense and said 'we don't know'.

Two things sellout liberals can't do.

Re: The Atheism PollPostby on Sun Mar 04, 2012 11:49 pm deep.BTUz

This thread is absolutely hilarious. Sure, it could have ended on post #2 with 'I don't know, and you don't either', but no... you've pressed on to comedy gold. You're arguing about something that literally no one knows the answer to, and that's what makes it hilarious. Quantum physics? Germ theory? Sure, why not? You guys have been blowharding it up for 54 pages, so why stop now? I'm willing to take all bets on how long it will take the PRF to figure it out laying odds at +/- ∞.

Sunday, March 4, 2012

EA Forum's Steve Albini: "A God could prove himself to me by stopping the rotation of the Earth- the fact that the Earth already is rotating cannot be suspected to be the work of a Creator, though."

Hilarious.
'Where's God?'

'If He stops the Earth's rotation, I might believe he exists.'

'The Earth already is rotating. Maybe that was the work of a God?'
Nutty atheists set up conditions of proof for God that involve changing conditions they refuse to interpret as caused by God to begin with.


Re: The Atheism Poll

Postby steve on Sun Mar 04, 2012 12:06 pm
galanter wrote:In what sense is the proposition "God doesn't exist" falsifiable?

Uh, if he shows up someplace and demonstrates god-type abilities publicly, then the thing is pretty much resolved. I mean, if he's god, he can probably do some pretty convincing stuff, so we could leave the method up to him. Stop the rotation of the earth, summon the forces of nature, create a universal apparition for everyone, yadda yadda. I mean, fuck it, he made the universe right? He could whip up another one and say, "check this here universe out."

If there were a god of the type people expect, proving his existence would be trivial.
Apparently, Steve Albini's presence in a universe of 'pretty convincing stuff' doesn't lead him to entertain the possibility that it's 'pretty convincing' because it was planned that way.

I'm not saying it is or it isn't planned, since I don't drastically overstate what science knows or doesn't know
 ( unlike both fundamentalist atheists and religious fundamentalists ), but it's obvious that if you can't see planning as a possibility for the construction of your environment, you're deadset against it for ideological reasons that have nothing to do with science or rationality. This self-imposed mental roadblock of radical anti-religious bigots posing as atheists is what leads them to challenge a God to halt the Earth's rotation but deny the possibility that a God already proved His power by setting it in motion to begin with.

The Many Lies That Sellout Liberal Stooges For Banking Parasites Must Tell Themselves Every Time They Support Phony Debt Money

Fiat backed by nothing requires a lot of firepower to enforce its use, being as it is a trade at gunpoint of counterfeit wealth for legitimate wealth in the form of resources or labor.

Remember that the next time some FED-supporting sellout liberal poses as anti-war or anti-imperialism or anti-oil or pro-environment or pro-human rights.

Fiat banking is partners with the military-industrial complex and the petro complex and the drug complex and the illegal drug complex.

This sums it up well:

Warren Buffett Priced In Gold
Can you say bubble? Or, more to the point, can you say bursting?

Warren Buffett loves to bash gold — claiming that stocks are inherently superior, because they produce a return, whereas gold just sits.  Trouble is, stocks (and all paper assets) are subject to counter-party risk, whereas physical gold isn’t. Gold doesn’t overcompensate its CEOs, it doesn’t leverage its productive capital in toxic derivatives, it doesn’t cause industrial disasters like Deepwater Horizon, its value isn’t dependent on central banking, or securitisation, or American imperialism, or the machinations of the military-industrial complex. It just sits, retaining its purchasing power.

Nobody wants to have a global reserve currency that can't be saved because
 it is always dying
 because it is always being debased to fund imperialism and wars
started by crazed bankers
who used
debt extortion
to leverage the governments they own
 to make the wars
 that cause demand
for their product to soar.

On the corpses of millions stands the Federal Reserve Note.

On the hunched backs of billions of wage and debt slaves stands the Federal Reserve Note.

Nobody wants the Federal Reserve note, except bankers and speculators and assorted anti-human trash like the warmongering pro-imperialist sellout liberal traitors who prove how pro-war and pro-imperialism they are every time they defend the phony money matrix.

Everyone else just has the US military pointing missiles at them.

EA Forum's Caix Admits That It Is Not Paradoxical To Take Social Security And Oppose Big Government

One of the favorite complaints from robot sellout liberals is this:

'If you take social security and complain about government spending, you're a hypocrite.'

Wrong.

Social security is not government spending.

It's a transfer from current workers to retired workers. Government contributes nothing, although they do steal any surpluses to feed Big Government.

The next time Caix sees some retiree on social security complaining about government spending and calls him a hypocrite, he should remember what he wrote today:


Re: Andrew Breitbart: Dead.

Postby caix on Sun Mar 04, 2012 10:06 am
there's all those "you entitlement-grabbing liberal" comments thrown at those in favor of the article. That really gets me, though. As if the only people who get the social security they paid into their entire lives are liberals. Fucking dumbwits..

Hilarious. A guy who confuses a transfer payment with a handout depending on which argument he's trying to make is calling people dumbwits.

Sellout liberals, all the time: "Be loyal to your government, they give you social security!'

Wrong. Government doesn't give you social security. Other workers do. Government mismanages the program for a price.

Saturday, March 3, 2012

Promotion Of The Belief System Known As 'Atheism' Using Government As A Tool Is A Violation Of The Separation Of Church And State

Sellout liberal Christian-hating bigots posing as atheists: "We need to remove religion from society."

"With what tool?"

"The government."

"So you plan to enforce a belief in the absence of God using the power of the State? That's a flagrant violation of the Constitution. The government is prohibited from demanding that the citizens believe OR disbelieve ANYTHING."

"We don't care. It's what we believe."

THE END

AIPAC Boasts To Israeli Media: "US Politicians grovel for our support."

AIPAC Prepares for 'Extraordinary' Annual Policy Conference

“This year’s conference will be more interesting,” AIPAC told Arutz Sheva. “It is an election year, so there will be a lot of congressmen and senators who would do anything to get the Jewish vote.”


Rick Reuben thinks it's a giant waste of time for ALL of America's Jews to decide who runs our government. Can't they just appoint one Jew to take turns each election year? Why should an entire 2.3% of the population have to worry about it?

Only Major Party Presidential Candidate Who Won't Be Addressing AIPAC Conference Described By Sellout Liberal Traitors As 'The only candidate who hates America'

Sellout liberals prove who owns their phony left wing movement lock stock and barrel every time they lie about Ron Paul.

AIPAC Prepares for 'Extraordinary' Annual Policy Conference

Among those who will address the body will be President Shimon Peres, Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu and U.S. President Barack Obama. The three leaders will not be the only ones addressing the conference attendees. Also scheduled to speak are Defense Secretary Leon Panetta and Republican Presidential hopefuls Mitt Romney, Rick Santorum and Newt Gingrich, among others.

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/153377#.T1J2jXltTDd

Breitbart: I Have Obama College Films



Alternate title for this video:

Breitbart: Before Spring, I Will Prove That A 'heart attack' Is Just A Mouse Click Away For All Of Us

Why are so many of the same jibbering controlled media talking heads who couldn't call the housing bubble convinced they can call a housing bottom?

Because they broadcast to know-nothings who have an appetite for happy happy news.

Housing bottom??

Four years of unprecedented counterfeiting and currency debasement have barely put the brakes on falling prices.

The glut of inventory, shadow and admitted, is gigantic.

Globalist sellout liberal traitors have bulldozed the road to the middle class, and it takes a middle class to buy homes.

I'm looking forward to the day when US homes are deconstructed for their underlying materials.

American Zionist Control Apparatus Launches New Chapter In Long-running Saga Called 'Are you dumb enough to be fooled into believing there's an anti-zionist candidate for President?'

For me to believe that Barack Obama is really 'dangerous to Israel', a minimum of three things will have to happen:

Barack Obama will need to solve 9/11.

Barack Obama will need to restore a constitutional monetary system.

Barack Obama will need to purge the Pentagon of Israel-firsters and shut all the back doors the Zionists have into all our communications and satellite networks.

Until that happens, I'm assuming this nonsense will be enough to convince globalist sellout liberals that they're not voting for a pro-finance pro-NWO zionist in November. Not that they really seem all that worried to be backing that death grip on America, as they proved emphatically in November of 2008.

Posted By Josh Rogin Share

One day before the AIPAC conference kicks off in Washington, an anti-Obama pro-Israel group is widening its criticism of President Barack Obama's record on Israel -- while the White House defends its treatment of the relationship.

The trailer for a new 30-minute video, entitled "Daylight: The Story of Obama and Israel," cuts together clips of Obama quotes and outside commentary to put forth the narrative that Obama has made statements and taken actions as president that have put him out of step with the government of Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and his supporters.